The Secret to Selling 3 - Pricing
One of the hardest thing for many sellers is pricing. Many things on Etsy are servely under priced in hopes of getting sales. This doesn’t always equal sales, as many shoppers equate a low price with low quality product and will pass your shop on by. If it does sell for the low price, once you add in PayPal and Etsy fees and overhead and supplies, you don’t really make any money.
There is an art to pricing. It’s called a formula.
So many times people ask, “how’s the price on this?” This tells potential customers you aren’t sure of yourself, your product, your skill, your talent, or your price.
Let’s look at an example. You might see that you took $5 worth of supplies, made it into something, list and sale it on Etsy for $10. You think you made a $5 profit, right? Easy math! They math is easy enough, but the formula is flawed. Let’s take a look:
- You list it and Etsy then takes their $0.20 listing fee $9.80
- You sale it for $10 and Etsy takes their 3.5% equaling $0.35 leaving you with $9.45
- PayPal takes their fees equaling $0.59 leaving you with $8.86
- Minus the $5 for supplies you are left with a $3.86 profit, correct?
- You spent $0.04 each on business cards and, like any good seller put 3 in the package totaling $0.12 leaving you with $3.74
- You put your item in $0.10 Organza bag or cello bag leaving you $3.64
- You wrapped your item in $0.05 worth of tissue paper and $0.20 worth of bubble wrap leaving you $3.39
- You then place your product in your $0.10 mailer and tape it up with $0.10 worth of shipping tape leaving you with $3.19
- You then use a $0.08 PayPal Label and say $0.05 worth of ink to print it leaving you with $3.06
So you took $5 worth of supplies, sold it for $10 and spent 30 minutes assembling/creating and 5 minutes to photograph it, 5 minutes to edit photos and 5 minutes to list it. Then you go on the forums and spend 5 minutes promoting it in various threads and another 5 minutes blogging about your new creation.
So for an hour of work you made $3.06…..would you take a job making $3.06/hour???
3 Simple things to consider when formulating your prices:
- Materials
- Labor
- Overhead
Sounds easy enough, right? Think you got it down? Check the detailed list below.
Thing based on each product:
- Supplies/Materials
- Labor
- Actual production
- Photographing
- Listing
- Promoting
- Emails/Convos
- Packaging
- Cello Bags
- Tissue Paper
- Bag
- Tape
- Business Card
- Tag/Label
- Box
- Ribbon/String/Raffia
- Card
- Mailer
- PayPal Label/Printer Ink/Address Label
- Selling Fees
- Website Fees
- Etsy Fees
- PayPal Fees
- Market/Fair Entry Fees
- Including Shipping in Price
Yearly overhead costs to be evenly divided between all products you make:
- Tools
- Computer
- Camera
- Craft Specific tools
- Printer/ink/computer programs
- stamps/pens/ink
- brushes/brush cleaner
- pliers/bead board
- storage/organization containers
- Button machines/sewing machine/cutting machines
- glue/adhesive/tape
- Studio/workspace Rent
- Electric/water bill
- Internet Connection
- Phone Bill
- Office Supplies
- Printing
- Accounting Fees
- Advertising
- Insurance
- Display Costs
- Subscriptions/Dues/Memberships
- Travel Expenses
- Taxes (usually 25-35% for small businesses)
Now that you’ve considered everything, you have to put it together. There are tons of formulas out there you can use, here are just a few….
- (supplies + packaging) x 4 + Labor + 10% = Base Retail Price
- 10% is for overhead, normal overhead is 10-20%
- x4 is your value factor, lower for wholesale raise for high end fairs
- 2 x (supplies + labor + overhead) = cost of sold goods
- Wholesale price: 2 x ($2 + $3 + $1) = $12
- Retail price: 2.5 x $12 = $30
I’m not a big fan of these formulas, but if you don’t want to put a lot of time and effort into it and are not doing your Etsy shop as an income, I and other sellers like me who do this for a living would much rather you use one of these simple formulas than to price $5 worth of supplies at $10! :0)
- Labor + Materials x 3 = wholesale
- Labor + Materials x 4 = retail
Formulas that use percentages are best as they are easily adjusted to fit your venue as some venues will allow a larger mark up than others.
You overhead should be adjusted to fit your needs and your hourly wage should fit your craft, Jewelry makers can easily charge $20/hour while someone who crochets or quilts could not.
My hourly rates are as follows $10 for paper crafts, $15 for graphics and $20 for jewelry.
The above formulas won’t work for everyone in every field, but they are a great place to start. Try them out and compare your prices to fellow Etsians selling the same items and adjust them to suit your needs.
The easiest thing to do is set up a spreadsheet in Excel (or buy one off Etsy) and use it to simply input your data, adjust your overhead, hourly wage and value factor and let the spreadsheet do the work for you!
To calculate Etsy and PayPal Fees http://etsy.ppcalc.com/
To calculate paypal fees without Etsy fees (if selling elsewhere) use http://ppcalc.com/
Have a different formula you use? Email it to me and I might add it to the post. If I do I’ll give you credit!
March 31st, 2008 at 23:13
Yep… it sure is hard to price fairly when so many people are undercutting their prices. If only everyone thought about this…
April 1st, 2008 at 00:51
Not to mention that if etsians are underselling themselves they can never have a sale without actually LOSING money!
Astute information and an excellent, generous blog overall! Thank you!
April 1st, 2008 at 09:12
Awesome article twitter pal! I struggle with pricing. Sometimes I feel like I’m too low and sometimes I feel like I’m too high. I’m horrible at math and my hubby’s a math teacher!
April 1st, 2008 at 09:14
I wonder how some etsyians do it? For me at least, it isn’t worth listing anything for under $10.
April 1st, 2008 at 15:15
Great tips, thanks!
*side note, I am trying to add the listing for the paper flowers for you, but Etsy seems to be down for me, but I promise I will have it up as soon as Etsy works again!
April 2nd, 2008 at 12:33
I am glad you thought this out! I have been earning my living with my jewelry for 10 years, and I can tell you in all my years I have never seen any formula as close to mine!!!
I wholesale to stores, and work in volume, so I know how to make many items a day, find the affordable materials, and sell at a attractive price while making a profit even with paid staff!!
(Gosh, that did not mean to sound like bragging, just that I understand that pricing is no small trifle and needs to be carefully concidered) If I dont, I dont eat…
April 4th, 2008 at 20:40
Very comprehnsive. Have been doing my pricing rather instinctively. Great to see those formulas. Thanks!
April 5th, 2008 at 18:37
Great tips!
I would love to publish the post on my blog. You would be credited of course. If not, I understand. I can always link to it.
Thanks for sharing!
-Michelle
Nature Manipulated
http://www.naturemanipulated.com
http://naturemanipulated.etsy.com
http://naturemanipulated.blogspot.com
April 5th, 2008 at 19:35
great advice. I’ll have to take a second look at my pricing.
April 7th, 2008 at 02:50
Awesome posts, I simply love reading them. They are very enlightening, even if I you some this already.. it is always good to read things like this to refresh your mind.
I think the problem is a lot of people sell as a “hobby” for quick cash rather than selling their craft one at a time. I think alot of crafters have low self esteem as well when it comes to selling.. and it’s understandable, with how many competitors there are!
I just have ONE question.. where in the world do you get 4 cent business cards?!
April 14th, 2008 at 11:34
Based on the basic formula of labour plus materials x 4 one of the mice in my shop should be priced at $80.00. A staggering price.
I was originally selling them for $12.00 and feel guilty haveing put the price up to $16.00 but may be thay should go up to at least $20.00. But would they sell? Who knows….
April 16th, 2008 at 02:13
$0.04 business cards, vistaprint. I have been using them for years and never had a problem I love them!
April 16th, 2008 at 12:55
Excellent info. Pricing is one of the most challenging things for many people, myself included. It is easy to overlook hidden expenses and costs. I really appreciate the detailed list you provided.
with your permission, I would like to copy a portion of this on my blog with a link to come read the full article. http://gemstatequilling.blogspot.com.
thanks for providing a very informative, helpful resource.
April 23rd, 2008 at 09:03
Wow, this was so helpful. Thanks a lot for all your wisdom.